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Re: Lawrence Rosen explains the CAFC Artistic decision / In search for

by Alexander Terekhov <terekhov@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 4, 2008 at 04:26 PM

Rjack wrote:
[...]
> http://www.rosenlaw.com/BadFactsMakeGoodLaw.pdf

I sorta agree with Lawrence Rosen that: 

"The CAFC relied on a long-ago California Supreme Court decision to the
effect that a condition can be found by "attributing the usual and
ordinary signification to the language of the parties." [Pg. 1381,
citing Diepenbrock v. Luiz, 159 Cal. 716 (1911)] Thus the CAFC
determined that the Artistic License, when it also uses the phrase
"provided that," "denotes a condition" under California contract law.
[Pg. 1381] This does, however, raise an interesting question: Of the
current approved open source and Creative Commons licenses, which of
them clearly distinguish their conditions from their covenants, and
under which state's contract law do we analyze that question?"

To repeat:

"This does, however, raise an interesting question..." 

(I fully agree with that.)

Ha ha.

But interestingly enough, it appears that a while back >>>SCO's<<<
lawyers also cited to Diepenbrock v. Luiz arriving at the diametrical
conclusion: 

http://groklaw.net/pdf/Novell-301.pdf


"As discussed by The Supreme Court of California, the term “provided”
may or may not indicate a condition, noting that “‘there is no magic in
the term [“provided”], and the clause in a contract is to be construed
from the words employed and from the purpose of the parties, gathered
from the whole instrument.’” Diepenbrock v. Luiz, 115 P. 743, 744 (Cal.
1911) (quoting Boston Safe Dep. and Trust Co. v. Thomas, 53 P. 472 (Kan.
1898) (finding that, based on a reading of an entire provision, a clause
containing “provided, that” was not a condition))." 

Very interesting, to say the least. 

Does anyone here have access to Diepenbrock v. Luiz decision? 

Californians?

TIA. 

regards, 
alexander. 

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be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards 
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Lawrence Rosen explains the CAFC Artistic decision
Rjack <user@[EMAIL PRO  2008-10-02 16:59:36 
Please take this to Judge Judy
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Re: Lawrence Rosen explains the CAFC Artistic decision / In sear
Alexander Terekhov <te  2008-10-04 16:26:05 
Re: Lawrence Rosen explains the CAFC Artistic decision / In sear
Alexander Terekhov <te  2008-10-07 13:05:15 

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