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Re: Is there a test for "Better" Finally read the psots

by "Raymond J. Johnson Jr." <Rayjay@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 26, 2007 at 08:10 PM

gn228169 wrote:
> Raymond J. Johnson Jr. wrote:
>> gn228169 wrote:
>>
>>> When analyzing a new method or process, we usually use a t-test to 
>>> see if the new method is equivalent. If it is not, we look at the 
>>> variance and target values to see if it failed because it was 
>>> "better" Is there a statistical test to check for "better" without 
>>> checking first for equivalence and then for variance and target?
>>> Thanks, Jim
>>
>>
>> You've got some 'splainin' to do. What's the difference between a 
>> "process" and a "method"? You put "better" in scare quotes, apparently 
>> because you understand that it's a relative concept, but you don't 
>> tell us about what makes "better" better.  What are your criteria? Are 
>> you considering only output values? Are there fiscal considerations 
>> (i.e., given equivalent output, is one process better because it's 
>> less costly)? What, exactly, are you trying to do?
> 
> A process and a method are the same thing, sorry. Better is less 
> variation and closer to target. A one sided t-test will not tell me if 
> the new method has less variation and is closer to the target as one 
> person suggested.
> I think cpk,ppk,cpm etc. will work but I still have a question. If a 
> cpk, cpm score is greater using the new method, I would assume the new 
> method is "better". My question is, How much of an increase in Ppm is 
> significant? Example: If my Ppm value was a 0.90 and increased to a 0.99

> using the new method, is this due to common noise or is this a truly 
> "better"?

It's only "better" if it saves money. Nitpicking the numbers *wastes* 
money. It's not clear whether you're trying to solve a particular 
problem or just dealing with theory, but if you're talking about a 
difference of .09 PPM, it's hard to believe it's worth worrying about.
 




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Is there a test for "Better"
gn228169 <s3ss3rph>  2007-04-16 21:43:32 
Re: Is there a test for "Better"
"Raymond J. Johnson   2007-04-17 09:40:11 
Re: Is there a test for "Better"
Dirk Macke <Dirk.Macke  2007-04-18 09:31:36 
Re: Is there a test for "Better" Finally read the psots
gn228169 <s3ss3rph>  2007-05-25 23:35:15 
Re: Is there a test for "Better" Finally read the psots
"Raymond J. Johnson   2007-05-26 20:10:44 
Re: Is there a test for "Better" Finally read the psots
gn228169 <s3ss3rph>  2007-05-27 22:48:55 
Re: Is there a test for "Better" Finally read the psots
"Tony" <a_bu  2007-05-29 23:09:11 
Re: Is there a test for "Better" Finally read the psots
gn228169 <s3ss3rph>  2007-06-02 09:04:42 
Re: Is there a test for "Better" Finally read the psots
"Tony" <a_bu  2007-05-28 04:16:48 

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