On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:07:12 +0000, Scott Jensen wrote:
> Sohail Somani <soh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Scott Jensen wrote:
>> > Sohail Somani <soh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
[snip]
> But only if you have a sound business concept to begin with and the
> right mindset to make it succeed.
The concept is sound. To me, the required mindset to make it succeed is
one that sets and achieves goals. To you? Opposite? :-)
>> I don't understand how this is better. I'm still not responsible for
>> myself.
>
> Yes, you are. You are responsible for the work you do for the company.
Sure, but I am not responsible for the direction.
[snip]
> Saying you are and really being can be two separate things. Given the
> muddy reasons why you want to start a business (Technician reasons), I
> think this is a potential blind spot for you.
What do you expect though? Do you expect someone to sit there worried day
after day but not do anything about it? I'm past worrying. Or atleast I'm
at the point where worrying leads to action.
[snip]
> As far as I can tell, so far you haven't said anything that would
> indicate this future is what is in store for you. You say you have
> spent a year thinking about going into business. And the end result of
> that year is your original post in this thread? You should have been
> able to answer the questions you raised in your original post a long
> long time ago. Hell, six months should have been more than enough to
> work up a very decent fully-fleshed-out business plan.
[snip]
I don't recall ever saying that I've spent a year working on this. If I
did, I was lying!
As far as business plans go, I think their worth is in making you think
things through, rather than actually following them to the letter. Would
you agree or disagree?
>> Even if it is easier to renegotiate, the long-term is still worse.
>
> No, the long-term will be more secure. Starting your own business is
> anything but secure.
Well with low risk comes low reward. I think that is the bottom line.
[snip]
> You need people skills to make a business succeed. I know that is hard
> to believe as a Technician, but it is nevertheless true.
Could you please point out to me where/when these skills are needed? That
way I can determine how I have done when these are needed.
>> >> I'm more than willing to have hours be 24/7 while I get things up
>> >> and running.
>>
>> > First, your family will suffer in the process. Social life? Ha!
>> > Send going-away greeting cards to your friends when you start your
>> > business.
I won't disagree with you there.
>> > Second, it might be years before things are "up and running" to where
>> > you can pull back and take time off from your business. Hell, it
>> > might never happen. You might always have to be working your ass off
>> > to keep from sinking.
Anything is possible, but plan for the worst and expect the best is what
I'm told.
>> Nah. I have a plan which is actually working.
>
> That is not the impression your original post and subsequent posts in
> this thread gives.
Plans are fluid. I did not have enough foresight to put into letter step-
by-step, the things I would need to do to market a product, something
which I have no first-hand experience (but a bit of second-hand.) I have
talked with people who have implemented what I am planning and it seems
doable.
>> >> What I am not willing to do is sacrifice owner****p of my
>> >> creations...
>>
>> > No, if you're an employee, you get paid to create them for your
>> > employer. Surely your current employer doesn't pay you to just sit
>> > in your cubicle and do nothing.
Nothing of recurring value to me, sure. Though I can probably point out
some people that do the above!
>> I am my current employer and I'm still doing alright.
>
> Hmmm. You're your own current employer and also an employee. Explain
> that.
Well I own and work for the company.
[snip]
> Or smart decisions. Why you always think other people are dumb is a bit
> disturbing.
You've got me on that.
[snip]
>> Having no financial risk is bull****.
>
> Minimizing financial risk is prude thinking ... whether you're an
> employee or a business owner. Any sane business owner would prefer no
> financial risk.
Yes, but we live in the real world where risk comes hand-in-hand with
everything else you do. In some industries, you lose your job when the
interest rates go too high. In others, more jobs are made. So there is
risk here as well.
>> I also don't have the personality to lose 8 hours of every weekday for
>> the rest of my life.
>
> No, you're getting paid for those eight hours.
To me this is what you are saying (in your posts):
* The only sensible reason to have a business is to make lots of money
* If you want to make more money, you can be an employee
[snip]
>> You do realize that things take time. I don't have the benefit of 20
>> years of experience like yourself. Guess what the first steps are?
>> Education and action. Get off *your* high horse my friend.
>
> But I earned my seat in this saddle. That is supposedly why you came to
> this newsgroup was to get advice from people just like me. That you
> don't like the advice you're getting not only is another issue but
> reveals the real reason why you came to this newsgroup.
No, don't get the idea that I don't appreciate it. I do very much. I
appreciate the time you and the other posters have taken.
What is the real reason I came?
[snip]
> But you're not showing this thread those mindsets. All I see is a
> Technician.
I won't disagree that is a large ****tion of me. But I am training the
other personalities.
[snip]
>> You've really got to stop reading what isn't there.
[snip]
> That isn't the attitude your previous statement was giving. You might
> not have meant it that way but that is how I read it. It isn't me
> reading what's not there but me reading and interrupting what you write.
Ok.
>> > Think about it.
>>
>> Well your mind is made up!
>
> And your mind seems closed. Take a deep breath. Relax. Lower your
> defenses. You're getting free advice from an experienced pro. This
> isn't a fight. Contrary to what you're probably thinking, I am actually
> trying to help you. Right now, I see your two biggest problems going
> into business as wrong reasons and wrong mindset. I am trying to get
> you to see that. Those two things can be changed IF you see them for
> what they are. They are not your only problems but they are your
> biggest.
To be honest, I thought you were just having a good time until I read
this paragraph. I very much appreciate your thoughts and I can tell that
there is sweat and blood behind it. I apologize if I was close-minded.
--
Sohail Somani
http://uint32t.blogspot.com
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