darkstar7646@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> darkstar7646@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> Then we are finished as an economy, a culture, and a nation.
>> Plenty of fools have claimed that before. Not one has ever got that
right.
> You need a good look at the present situation
Nope. I've been around long enough to have seen that sort of mindlessly
silly claim repeated time after time after time in nation after nation
after
nation, and NOT ONCE has that EVER happened in CENTURYS.
Even losing full world wars didnt do that, not once.
> -- we have a group in power who is openly machinating
> the end of our economy, culture, and nation.
Nope, just plenty of mindless pig ignorant fools claiming that that is
happening.
There certainly are a few fools stupid enough to try to
do that, but they arent in power and never ever will be.
The fools that were stupid enough to invade Iraq havent got any power
to even do something like that again, and even you should have noticed
that the head chimp of that operation is about to be given the bums rush
and will go quietly, just like every other prez has done.
>>> The only disagreement I might have with the op is that it's not going
>>> to be a national effort -- but an international one, like the Marshall
Plan.
>> Nope, the way we do things will change over time, just like it has
>> done countless times before, as what was previously the best way to
>> do things is no longer and we move on to a better way of doing things.
> At the cost of how much unrest
**** all. Just a bit of mindless hyperventilation by fools like you that
dont have a clue.
> and how many lives?
**** all and the bulk of the americans who end up dead are volunteers.
> What happens when the entire American way
> of life is no longer the best way to do things?
It hasnt been for a hell of a long time now. That doesnt alter the fact
that
its still a hell of a lot better than in much of the third and second
world and
that plenty there still see it as much better than their current
cir***stances.
Quite a few from other first world countrys do too.
Their choice.
> What happens when the entire American way of life becomes unsustainable?
That wont happen. Even nukes didnt produce that and neither did full
industrial war.
> This isn't something you can turn on and off like a switch, sir.
No one ever said it was, cur. What matters is that the american way of
life has
changed radically over time and will continue to do so again. Just like
the way
of life in every other first world country has done too, and will continue
to do.
There might just be a reason why humans are BY FAR the most adaptable
animals around.
> And if you think it is...
Having fun thra****ng that straw man ?
>> That wont be electric cars for enough to matter, you watch.
> There won't be electricity enough to matter for the better number of
Americans.
Corse there will. Even the american system will go for
nukes if thats what it takes to provide enough electricity.
> You don't get it
Fraid I do, that you dont have a ****ing clue.
> -- the whole she-bang is ****ed.
Plenty of fools have claimed that before. Not one has ever got that right.
The system has survived a great depression, countless full depressions
in the century before 1929, two world wars, countless smaller wars,
and will continue to survive whatever turns up, you watch.
>>> And I think most of the real powers of the world
>> No such animal.
> There are economic and societal powers in this world
Nope, no such animal.
> -- we just are not one of them anymore.
More mindless pig ignorant drivel. Have a look at where the full
commercialisation
of technology STILL happens first. The PC, software, the internet, google,
ebay,
paypal, wikipedia, the human genome project, and countless examples of
trivial
technology like fast food, stupid shoes, movies, TV etc etc etc.
> Or is THAT why you believe there is no real power in this world anymore?
There wasnt even when the industrial revolution had just happened.
>>> would rather see the US and the Western World fall entirely into the
Third World.
>> There are certainly plenty of fools that would like to see that.
> And those "fools" are, as I said before, many of the real powers of the
world.
Nope, not one. Not one of them has a shred of real power.
>> It isnt going to happen tho, you watch.
> Bull****.
You sig is supposed to be at the bottom, with a line with just -- on a
line by itself in front of it.
>> Have a look at where EVERY SINGLE TECHNOLOGY since the
>> industrial revolution has come from. And plenty of other dramatic
>> advances like vaccination and the human genome project etc as well.
>> Then have a look at what those fools who would like to see
>> the US and the Western World fall entirely into the Third World
>> have managed to produce themselves and even you should
>> be able to grasp how completely irrelevant those fools are.
> What's to say we aren't, as a world, about to go backwards
> a couple hundred years to wipe out a lot of those advances,
Not even possible. You cant ever go back to the time
before the industrial revolution, let alone the internet etc.
You cant uninvent vaccination or the human genome project.
> except for the very few and very rich who are going to be the last ones
left?
The same mindlessly silly claim was made by fools like you
about nukes, and by that fool Malthus CENTURYS ago now.
Even someone as stupid as you should have noticed that neither actually
happened.
> Get with reality.
You wouldnt know what reality was if it bit you on your lard arse.
Do the decent thing and hang yourself forthwith.
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