On Sat, 5 Jul 2003, Constantinople wrote:
> Guilherme <groschke@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
> news:Pine.GSO.4.44.0307042327580.22204-100000@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > On 4 Jul 2003 maxpoundstone@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> >
> >> Gabrielle Rapagnetta
> >> > Why not tackle this issue head on and explain to us a specific
> >> > process in which a slave might buy his freedom on the "free"
> >> > market?
> >>
> >> Withough government, a slave would "buy" his freedom by cru****ng the
> >> head of his captor with a shovel while others stand around an
> >> applaud.
> >>
> >> Either that or run away.
> >>
> > says who? libertarians always promise that in their govt-less
> > systems property would be protected by some mafia-like 'defence
> > associations'.
>
> No, "libertarians" (without a qualifier) don't say that. Anarcho-
> capitalists (which are ONE KIND of libertarian) argue that defence
> associations would protect ACTUAL RIGHTS, and would be far less likely
> than government to violate rights (such as the rights of slaves).
ok. anarcho capitalists. but i see no reason why they would protect
actual rights. looks more like they will protect the wishes of the
highest bidder.
>
> > why would slave/human property not be subject to the
> > same -- specially if the financial incentives are controlled by the
> > slave owners?
>
> Slaves stand to benefit more from their own freedom than slave-owners
> stand to benefit from their enslavement. This is true even though the
> slaves are poor and the slaveowners are rich.
>
> Consider that Bill Gates is very rich. Nevertheless, by enslaving me all
> he stands to gain is the approximate value of my work. But I already
> make the approximate value of my work. And moreover, if I were his
> slave, I would not be anywhere near as productive as I am now, being a
> free person. Therefore he would have far less to gain, financially, from
> enslaving me than I have to gain, financially, by being free. Therefore
> if he hired a mafioso to capture me and I hired a mafioso to defend me,
> I would be willing to offer my mafioso more money than he would be
> willing to offer his mafioso.
>
what kind of money do slaves have to hire anything?
-gr
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