On 14-Aug-2007, gpsman <gpsman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> I don't know how long it takes, I'm sure it varies by how much they
> consume, but I'd guess a lethal dose to be effective within 12-24 hrs.
>
> A call to the manufacturer or visit to their website would be my
> recommendation to address your specific concerns, I don't recall
> reading anything on any label of any material I ever used about the
> rats becoming poisonous themselves.
Here it is from the experts themselves Bell Laboratories. This is a study
done on exactly this subject, secondary exposure. It is highly unlikely
that
it will happen and if you look at the re****t you will see why. The re****t
is
fairly easy to understand if you read it closely.
From Bell Laboratories
Secondary Non-Target Exposures to Anticoagulant Rodenticide Baits
Page 1 of 1
Secondary Non-Target Exposures
A secondary poisoning is described as an exposure to an active ingredient
via consumption of another
organism that has already consumed the bait. As shown below, the
probability
of a secondary
poisoning from one of the anticoagulant rodenticides is extremely
unlikely.
While a rat need eat only a few grams and a mouse about one gram of these
baits to reach a toxic dose,
they often eat far in excess of lethal dose. A rat can consume 20 - 25
grams
of bait in a day, a mouse, 5
- 10 grams. The rat or mouse will die in approximately 3 to 5 days, during
which time it will have
excreted up to 50% of the active ingredient. If we consider the worst case
scenario, that the rat or
mouse has just eaten the bait and the pet then consumes the entire
rat/mouse, thereby essentially eating
the bait via the rat/mouse, we get the consumption quantities shown in
Table
1 (rat/mouse totals are
rounded up).
Table 1 -
% of Body Weight
of Bait Consumed <1% 1 - 5% 5 - 10% >10%
10 lb. pet
2 rats
5 mice
2 - 9 rats
5 - 22 mice
9 - 18 rats
22 - 44 mice
More than 18 rats
More than 44 mice
25 lb. pet
4 rats
11 mice
4 - 22 rats
11 - 56 mice
22 - 45 rats
56 - 112 mice
More than 45 rats
More than 112 mice
40 lb. pet
7 rats
18 mice
7 - 36 rats
18 - 91 mice
36 - 73 rats
91 - 182 mice
More than 73 rats
More than 182 mice
100 lb. pet
18 rats
46 mice
18 - 91 rats
46 - 227 mice
91 - 182 rats
227 - 454 mice
More than 182 rats
More than 454 mice
Suggested
Response
Treatment optional but probably not
necessary. Observe for overt symptoms.
Treatment optional but pet should be
observed for overt symptoms. Consider
Prothrombin Time (Pro-Time) test 24
hours after ingestion. Treatment advisable,
consult your veterinarian. Consider
Prothrombin Time (Pro-Time) test 24
hours after ingestion. Seek immediate
treatment. Bring product packaging
with you
As can be seen from this table, while possible, unless the rats or mice
are
the primary food source for
the pet, consumption of a sufficient quantity of poisoned animals is not
likely. Please remember that
dead rodents should be picked up and disposed of, preferably daily. The
probability of getting a
disease from the dead or dying rodents probably exceeds the likelihood of
getting sick from any
residual active ingredient in the baits.
If you have any questions or require any additional information please see
our web site or give us a
call at 1-608-241-0202.
Craig A. Riekena - 100103
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and release the S**** to email me.
www.onepest.com


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