"Wm James" <wrjames.remove@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:09:07 GMT, "Michael Legel"
> <mjlegel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
> You called freedom slavery. Make up your mind.
You are a liar. I have never called freedom slavery you fool. I
understand
your frustration at your ignorance and inability to understand simple
concepts, but don't start putting words in my mouth. YOU keep going on
about
freedom as if anyone can run a business any way they choose. I am simply
stating the government regulates business as well as individuals and you
ARE
NOT FREE to do as you damn please.
>
>>>>like say a minimum wage
>>>>law ... and make you pay them or go out of business. They might also
pass
>>>>a
>>>>law that says you have to pay something like, say, a Social Security
tax
>>>>so
>>>>they have a safety net in their senior years. Along the way they
might
>>>>also
>>>>pass some laws regarding overtime, length of work week, safety on the
job,
>>>>legal holidays, the right to unionize, the mandate that you must
negotiate
>>>>with that union, etc. In fact, Mr. Bill, if the people get pissed
enough
>>>>they
>>>>can pass a law that puts you completely out of business if you trade
in
>>>>child
>>>>****ograpy, slavery, etc. Now with all these possibilities at hand
....
>>>>maybe
>>>>we ought to start lobbying for a Mr. Bill's law.
>>>
>>> Like I said, if the task is only worth X dollars to me, and I can't
>>> find a seller for X or less, then no trade is made. The job doesn't
>>> exist to be overregulated, taxed, or jumped on by union whores and mob
>>> bosses. You can pass whatever laws you want and tell someone who
>>> needs X dollars that they have no right to trade with me. So much
>>> from your interest in the poor hungry guy trying to make a living,
>>> huh?
>>>
>>
>>Unless, as I pointed out, the people who live around you have passed
laws
>>otherwise. Then you will pay according to the law or go out of
business.
>
> Read what I said. Have someone explain the big words if you need to.
> What part of "if the task is only worth X dollars to me" did you not
> understand? If it's worth no more then the job doesn't exist at a
> higher cost.
Of course it does. YOU may not offer that job at that rate and go out of
business if you like, but others will obey the law and offer the job at
the
legal minimum wage determined by society as I pointed out. This is, in
fact,
a law in our country by the way. You keep going on about this as if you
can
refute reality. YOU don't get to set the value of labor alone and neither
does anyone else. A democratice society p***** laws to frame that
decision.
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