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Re: The Legacy of the IWW

by "Michael Legel" <mjlegel@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 1, 2005 at 04:49 AM

"Wm James" <wrjames.remove@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:aqb9c11aqii50h53s3e0fuun15hch0ggp6@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Employers are people who buy labor. Whether a wage is decent isn't
> even relevant. If the work is only worth 10 cents an hour, then that's
> all it's worth.  It doesn't matter if it's enough to live on. If it's
> worth less than it costs to find a seller, there is no trade.

What unmitigated nonsense.  Mr. Bill advocates slavery as the lowest
common 
denominator.

> Right. If I need a task done, and getting that task done has a value
> to me of X dollars, then it's only worth X dollars. Either someone is
> willing to trade their labor for that or they aren't.  If they are,
> fine, they get X dollars and aren't entitled to any more whether it's
> enough for them to eat on or not. If they want better hours and a
> better environment, and better benefits, fine!  They can ask for that
> up front or go sell their labor to someone else willing to trade it.
>

Or... they can get together and pass some laws .... like say a minimum
wage 
law ... and make you pay them or go out of business.  They might also pass
a 
law that says you have to pay something like, say, a Social Security tax
so 
they have a safety net in their senior years.  Along the way they might
also 
pass some laws regarding overtime, length of work week, safety on the job,

legal holidays, the right to unionize, the mandate that you must negotiate

with that union, etc.  In fact, Mr. Bill, if the people get pissed enough
they 
can pass a law that puts you completely out of business if you trade in
child 
****ograpy, slavery, etc.  Now with all these possibilities at hand ....
maybe 
we ought to start lobbying for a Mr. Bill's law.


>>No unions mean more profit to you, right, and a rule of absolutism....
>
> People start businesses to make profit, not to pay more than necessary
> to vendors.
>
>>Except if you were really smart, you'd know a clean union benefits you
>>more than any short term economic gain could ever indicate....
>
> ROTFLMAO!  In the real world that's never once been the case.

In your ignorance Mr. Bill, we shall forgive this very biased, incorrect
and 
shortsighted statement.  I think if you took the time to investigate you
would 
find many medium to major size cor****ations rely on unions to help them 
manage.  The union also provides a very convenient scapegoat for morons
like 
you.

<cute little Mr. Bill story clipped>
 




 20 Posts in Topic:
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
Wm James <wrjames.remo  2005-06-30 22:07:10 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
"Michael Legel"  2005-07-01 04:49:59 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
Wm James <wrjames.remo  2005-07-05 10:42:01 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
"Michael Legel"  2005-07-05 16:09:07 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
Wm James <wrjames.remo  2005-07-07 10:53:01 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
"Michael Legel"  2005-07-07 16:52:06 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
Wm James <wrjames.remo  2005-07-08 22:45:01 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
Wm James <wrjames.remo  2005-07-05 10:50:01 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
"Michael Legel"  2005-07-05 16:18:48 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
Wm James <wrjames.remo  2005-07-07 10:59:01 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
"Michael Legel"  2005-07-07 16:58:51 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
Wm James <wrjames.remo  2005-07-08 23:16:02 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
"Michael Legel"  2005-07-09 12:29:10 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
Barnacle Bill <quahog@  2005-07-09 21:40:45 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
Wm James <wrjames.remo  2005-07-11 18:01:02 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
Wm James <wrjames.remo  2005-07-11 18:00:07 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
"Michael Legel"  2005-07-11 23:57:42 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
Wm James <wrjames.remo  2005-07-26 22:41:02 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
"Michael Legel"  2005-07-27 09:18:33 
Re: The Legacy of the IWW
Wm James <wrjames.remo  2005-08-10 23:00:12 

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