veritas wrote:
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> On May 12, 8:23 pm, Greg Procter <proc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > veritas wrote:
> >
> > > On May 11, 8:16 pm, Greg Procter <proc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > veritas wrote:
> >
> > > > > On May 11, 4:25 pm, Greg Procter <proc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > > veritas wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > On May 6, 1:40 pm, Reggie <Reggie...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Latest News-at-a-Glance - Courtesy of
TvNewsLIES.orghttp://tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index.php/latest-news-at-a-glance
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > John Bolton: US should bomb Iranian camps
> > > > > > > > Tuesday, 06 May 2008 14:25
> >
> > > > > > > > Mr Bolton said that striking Iran would represent a major
step towards
> > > > > > > > victory in Iraq. While he acknowledged that the risk of a
hostile
> > > > > > > > Iranian response harming American’s overseas interests
existed, he said
> > > > > > > > the damage inflicted by Tehran would be “far higher” if
Wa****ngton took
> > > > > > > > no action.
> >
> > > > > > > > “This is a case where the use of military force against a
training camp
> > > > > > > > to show the Iranians we’re not going to tolerate this is
really the most
> > > > > > > > prudent thing to do,” he said. “Then the ball would be in
Iran’s court
> > > > > > > > to draw the appropriate lesson to stop harming our
troops.”
> >
> > > > > > > > More...
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > Inquiry: Hospitals couldn't handle terror attack
> > > > > > > > Tuesday, 06 May 2008 13:29
> >
> > > > > > > > WA****NGTON — Hospital trauma centers in seven major cities
do not have
> > > > > > > > the capacity to handle even a modest terrorist attack,
according to
> > > > > > > > findings released Monday from a House committee
investigation.
> >
> > > > > > > > Lawmakers looked into hospitals' ability to deal with a
sudden influx of
> > > > > > > > victims in the five cities considered at highest risk for
terrorist
> > > > > > > > attack and in the two cities hosting this summer's
political conventions.
> >
> > > > > > > > More...
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > House panel subpoenas top Cheney aide
> > > > > > > > Tuesday, 06 May 2008 13:19
> >
> > > > > > > > WA****NGTON (AP) — The House Judiciary Committee voted
Tuesday to compel
> > > > > > > > a top aide to Vice President Dick Cheney to testify to the
committee
> > > > > > > > about the Bush administration's interrogation practices.
> >
> > > > > > > > David Addington, Cheney's chief of staff, refused to
testify without a
> > > > > > > > subpoena. No date has been set for his appearance before
Congress.
> >
> > > > > > > > Addington is one of several lawyers believed to have
played a key role
> > > > > > > > in crafting the administration's interrogation policies
shortly after
> > > > > > > > the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, policies which some say
amounted to torture.
> >
> > > > > > > > More...
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > Guantánamo Briton sues UK over 'torture evidence'
> > > > > > > > Tuesday, 06 May 2008 12:49
> >
> > > > > > > > The last British resident left in Guantánamo Bay is suing
the UK
> > > > > > > > government for refusing to produce evidence that he was a
victim of
> > > > > > > > extraordinary rendition and torture.
> >
> > > > > > > > Binyam Mohamed faces a US military commission which could
sentence him
> > > > > > > > to death, and his lawyers say proving that the case
against him is based
> > > > > > > > exclusively on evidence extracted by torture, following
his rendition by
> > > > > > > > the CIA, is vital to his defence.
> >
> > > > > > > > Today, they lodged papers at the high court in London,
seeking a
> > > > > > > > judicial review to force the Foreign Office to release
information on
> > > > > > > > his movements.
> >
> > > > > > > > More...
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > Fuelling the world food crisis
> > > > > > > > Tuesday, 06 May 2008 12:39
> >
> > > > > > > > Yesterday’s Wa****ngton Post front-page lead story summed
up in seven
> > > > > > > > words what’s going on: "Siphoning Off Corn to Fuel Our
Cars."
> >
> > > > > > > > Yes, cars on American roads will burn up close to
one-third of the
> > > > > > > > enormous corn crop American farmers will grow this year.
But because the
> > > > > > > > United States is the world’s biggest producer of corn, an
essential
> > > > > > > > staple, this massive diversion from the food bowl to the
fuel tank
> > > > > > > > threatens to wreak increasing havoc from here to Timbuktu.
> >
> > > > > > > > More...
> > > > > > > >
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> >
> > > > > > > > News updated throughout the day.
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> >
> > > > > > > Well, then Timbuktu will have to pay more for the corn than
the fuel
> > > > > > > people. Ecomomics
> > > > > > > at work. Then maybe oil will go down under a
$100.00/barrel. They
> > > > > > > can't eat oil. Well,
> > > > > > > maybe they can in Timbuktu, but not the middle east. Ken
Hogan
> >
> > > > > > If "economics" in the sense of "free enterprise economoics"
made sense,
> > > > > > oil would be $300- per barrel and rising.
> >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Greg.P.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > > > Economics of "free enterprise economics" is all that works. As
for
> > > > > $300 a barrel of oil.
> > > > > So what? It costs us a 1/4 of one cent to print a dollar bill.
> > > > > Figure out the math. We
> > > > > get a barrel of oil and they get .75/cents of paper. Meanwhile
our
> > > > > ex****ts are going full blast and we bought the barrel of oil for
.75
> > > > > cents. So, let it raise. If they don't want to sell it
anymore, they
> > > > > are on their own. Let them eat the oil. Or we just come take
it.
> > > > > Either way, we get the oil and to our advantage.
> >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Ken Hogan
> >
> > > > Hi Ken,
> >
> > > > it doesn't work that way - if you print more money your economy
remains
> > > > the same value so the value of the US dollar drops. (that has a
familiar
> > > > ring to it)
> > > > You get one ****pment of oil and then you pay in Euros thereafter.
You
> > > > produce bugger-all that the world wants so you have no Euros.
> > > > The price of oil goes up until demand begins to droop. The oil
producing
> > > > countries have finally realized that their resources are worth
more than
> > > > the US wants to pay and that it doesn't matter how much they
charge
> > > > because we will pay it.
> > > > Your invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq has shown your military
threat is
> > > > next to toothless.
> >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Greg.P.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > There are not enough Euros in the world to take care of all the
> > > economic transactions tht go on every day.
> >
> > AFAIK the number of US$ and Euros are close to equal.
> >
> > > The Euros would have run-
> > > away inflation if they printed or stamped all that money.
> >
> > Certainly - exactly the same as if you printed excess US dollars.
> >
> > > There are a
> > > lot of bodies in Afghanistan, and Iraq buried in the sand with no
> > > teeth marks I guess.
> >
> > sure - we don't hold either the US or it's former ally Saddam Hussein
in
> > any high regard.
> >
> > > not many are ours.
> >
> > Not enough - I just wish you would get what you deserve. (well, not
> > really, that would be an awful lot of innocent yanks slaughtered!
> >
> > > Just remember, we didn't use
> > > all we had, we used what we felt was necessary.
> >
> > You've used more than you've got, that's why your currency is taking
> > it's current decline.
> >
> > > If we were like the
> > > muslims, they all would be under the sand if we chose.
> >
> > The only difference between you and "the Muslims" is that they
> > generally want peace - you want to continue to steal their resources.
> >
> > > We chose not
> > > to. We wouldn't even break a sweat. That's called winning hearts
and
> > > minds, wait until we don't give a damn about winning hearts and
minds,
> > > then we just take them all.
> >
> > If you did that you would be the pariah of the planet - trade would
end
> > with you and you'd be isolatedand on a par with Myanmar.
> >
> > > So don't get to mouthy, we aren't done
> > > yet. We don't have 4 carrier groups in the Indian Ocean for the
fine
> > > weather.
> >
> > LOL, you can't even subdue minor countries of peasants in black
pajamas
> > carrying bamboo sticks, let alone two stoneage ME nations, how do you
> > imagine you'd subdue the entire Muslim world?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Regards.
> > > Ken Hogan- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Ah, now you get into politics, that is a different story. We don't do
> lots of things because of politics.
The world is about politics!
> We wouldn't bomb the dikes in
> North Vietnam. It would have starved them,
The Vietnam war was about politics - you were the bad guys backing a
vicious dictator to keep a nation divided.
What's not politics about that?
> and Ho Chi Min hated the
> Chinese more than us.
Of course.
Stupid US presidents could well have achieved whatever it was they
wanted to achieve there just by co-operating with China.
> They would have intervinded, and neither side
> wanted anything to do with China. ( We probably would not have fought
> there if we would have just put him in charge in the first place.)
> Nor the harbor where the Russian ****ps were unloading supplies. We
> couldn't even fire our guns unless fired upon. After 50,000 dead,
Don't forget you murdered several million Vienamese people in your
attempt to alienate the people of S.Asia.
No-one but you will forget.
> the
> President and McNamara knowing they lied to us all, the kids
> (including myself) saying I'm not going over there, we aren't going to
> win, and have no intention of winning. We are getting into different
> conversations. The Lt.s and Capt.'s in Vietnam are Generals now, they
> have been in that trap. We don't WANT the countries, we just want to
> profit from them.
Sure, that involves the repression of the populations through installing
corrupt forms of dictator****p or monarchy.
See, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran, Iraq etc and now Afghanistan and Iraq
again.
You've lost all the respect of people around the World for the USA as a
nation.
> If Iran doesn't play nice, we will take them out.
If you do that you will become the pariah nation of the world.
> If Saddam had played nice, he could still be torturing his own people.
You see why you've lost respect?
> ENTIRE Muslim world? You act like they have a Pope or something.
> They are the most scattered religion in the world except maybe the
> Buddhists.
Sure, the Moslem religion is one of peace.
> Destroy Iran's capability
What Iran's capability"? Have you been listening to US propaganda again,
like 1941 "Japanese will never make good pilots because they all have
poor eyesight and poor balance" LOL.
> and see how the Sunnis stand up
> and applaud. The Saudis might even drop oil prices for us.
You forget that you've installed corrupt people in power in Saudi -
corrupt people don't drop prices just because they like what you've
done, they look for op****tunities to be even more corrupt.
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